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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on { TAR SANDS } The Other End of the Pipeline by unlimited_free_hosting</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2010/06/tar-sands-the-other-end-of-the-pipeline/#comment-28250</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just signed up to your sites rss feed. Will you post more on this subject?</description>
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		<title>Comment on What I&#8217;m Looking at: Trash &#124; Track by riverbed steelhead msrp</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2009/10/what-im-looking-at-trash-track/#comment-26006</link>
		<dc:creator>riverbed steelhead msrp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will probably there be any type of update from the iphone4 to apple iphone 5 when it comes out?Im trying to find out if an iPhone 4 user should be able to update to the i phone 5 when it will come out. Ive got my own iphone4 since june of last year and i wouldnt like to spend $600 for the apple iphone five when it comes out this summer time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will probably there be any type of update from the iphone4 to apple iphone 5 when it comes out?Im trying to find out if an iPhone 4 user should be able to update to the i phone 5 when it will come out. Ive got my own iphone4 since june of last year and i wouldnt like to spend $600 for the apple iphone five when it comes out this summer time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Infographics: Center of the World by Bag Mulberry News</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2010/03/infographics-center-of-the-world/#comment-23327</link>
		<dc:creator>Bag Mulberry News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>without question amongst the most impressive . Over-all conception of the webpage is definitely spectacular .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without question amongst the most impressive . Over-all conception of the webpage is definitely spectacular .</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Land I Use: Easterly&#8217;s Pile by IgnightiftHib</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2010/03/the-land-i-use-easterlys-pile/#comment-23185</link>
		<dc:creator>IgnightiftHib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://esoth18394.cwahi.net/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;DAMRAK II’s Maiden Voyage in Scandinavia. Joined week in heaven. (Yachting &#38; Boating)&lt;/a&gt; 
After her send in Gdansk, Poland in May 2011, the 70 Sunreef Power Damrak II has departed for her maiden voyage to Scandinavia with the owners Olivier and Katia, their 2 year esteemed daughter Anna, and a couple of their friends, Marcus and Mia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://esoth18394.cwahi.net/index.html" rel="nofollow">DAMRAK II’s Maiden Voyage in Scandinavia. Joined week in heaven. (Yachting &amp; Boating)</a><br />
After her send in Gdansk, Poland in May 2011, the 70 Sunreef Power Damrak II has departed for her maiden voyage to Scandinavia with the owners Olivier and Katia, their 2 year esteemed daughter Anna, and a couple of their friends, Marcus and Mia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [ Infographic ] Robotic Labor Statistics by paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2011/09/infographic-robotic-labor-statistics/#comment-22431</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's fascinating to note that even a supposedly brave and hard-core critic of the establishment, like Ralph Nader, writing on a supposedly  brave and critical site like Counterpunch, can barely bring himself/itself to tentatively criticize the lawless US global military occupation, and the by-now massive and increasing roboticization of that occupation, a trend that removes its already lawless rule even further from any possible accountability  ...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/27/as-the-drone-flies/

Seriously, we are in the twilight of human freedom, enjoying the last few minutes in which human beings can actually think thoughts and express them, and even in this extremis of human freedom,  supposedly brave critics can barely bring themselves to go beyond mumbling a few bromides about how this or that narrow issue could maybe possibly be a problem some day safely far off in the future, but really probably not, because only grumpy gadflies really worry about such things anyway ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fascinating to note that even a supposedly brave and hard-core critic of the establishment, like Ralph Nader, writing on a supposedly  brave and critical site like Counterpunch, can barely bring himself/itself to tentatively criticize the lawless US global military occupation, and the by-now massive and increasing roboticization of that occupation, a trend that removes its already lawless rule even further from any possible accountability  &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/27/as-the-drone-flies/" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/27/as-the-drone-flies/</a></p>
<p>Seriously, we are in the twilight of human freedom, enjoying the last few minutes in which human beings can actually think thoughts and express them, and even in this extremis of human freedom,  supposedly brave critics can barely bring themselves to go beyond mumbling a few bromides about how this or that narrow issue could maybe possibly be a problem some day safely far off in the future, but really probably not, because only grumpy gadflies really worry about such things anyway &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on [ Infographic ] Robotic Labor Statistics by paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2011/09/infographic-robotic-labor-statistics/#comment-22372</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this to be quite a soft take on the implications of robotics, one which so typically and propagandistically reduces screaming issues to 'some-are-concerned" dismissals.  I was particularly struck by the reference to military robotics.  The concern cited here seems to be  that there might be 'accidents' with militarized robots.   Notice how that avoids the real issue, which is that militarized robotics not only remove the moral code of the individual soldier from the lethal force equation, in a world where that individual moral code is the ultimate and in some ways the only real barrier to heedless slaughter and general abuse of lethal power, but they also concentrate truly fantastic power, godlike power in the hands of the elite few.  This is a key component to  ultimate dystopian nightmares, and  that nightmarish future is increasingly now, with drones increasingly screeching in the skies everywhere, and even the guy with the joystick behind the drone looking increasingly unnecessary as ai develops.  Nanodrones are being developed, along with space drones, both of which   can kill without the victim even being aware that he or she is being hunted.  

And all that is setting aside obvious other concerns related to militarized ai-driven robotics, concerns related to ai itself,  since they would really only concern the 'elites'.  To the rest of us, what does it matter if the roboticized brutality  being unleashed on us is coming from Rockefeller or from Robotifeller?

But really, we all knew for decades that Robotics would ultimately take all of our jobs, including skilled work and creative work.  For God's sake, does anyone seriously think that they will be unable to make robots that can make paintings?  For decades now we've been able to forsee this, and that is just one of the reasons that it is SOOOO significant that our society has become crueler and harsher over the last several decades.  Think about how perverse this really is.  Just as human labor is becoming steadily less necessary, the fascist ideology that ALL MUST WORK (except for the 'elites')   has  become screechingly transcendent.  No one of any political stripe even thinks to question this now fundamental principle.  All must work, and their human value is determined by their work ('elites' aside).

Again, how perverse is this?  The less there is work for all, the more we are told that we may live only if we work, and how well we live also depends on our work.  Where is this all leading?   That's not hard to figure.  It's leading to hell on earth for most people.  No jobs.  No sustenance or dignity without jobs, and very little with.   Surveillance everywhere.  Robotic kill machines everywhere.  Most people treated like animals.  Elites living in heavenly environments with robotics and slavelike humans taking care of every need.

We are headed for hell, and  it was a choice we either made or allowed to be made for us.  It didn't have to be this way.  Why did so many of us choose to believe heartless and fascistic notions about what makes a human being worthy of even living, much less prospering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this to be quite a soft take on the implications of robotics, one which so typically and propagandistically reduces screaming issues to &#8217;some-are-concerned&#8221; dismissals.  I was particularly struck by the reference to military robotics.  The concern cited here seems to be  that there might be &#8216;accidents&#8217; with militarized robots.   Notice how that avoids the real issue, which is that militarized robotics not only remove the moral code of the individual soldier from the lethal force equation, in a world where that individual moral code is the ultimate and in some ways the only real barrier to heedless slaughter and general abuse of lethal power, but they also concentrate truly fantastic power, godlike power in the hands of the elite few.  This is a key component to  ultimate dystopian nightmares, and  that nightmarish future is increasingly now, with drones increasingly screeching in the skies everywhere, and even the guy with the joystick behind the drone looking increasingly unnecessary as ai develops.  Nanodrones are being developed, along with space drones, both of which   can kill without the victim even being aware that he or she is being hunted.  </p>
<p>And all that is setting aside obvious other concerns related to militarized ai-driven robotics, concerns related to ai itself,  since they would really only concern the &#8216;elites&#8217;.  To the rest of us, what does it matter if the roboticized brutality  being unleashed on us is coming from Rockefeller or from Robotifeller?</p>
<p>But really, we all knew for decades that Robotics would ultimately take all of our jobs, including skilled work and creative work.  For God&#8217;s sake, does anyone seriously think that they will be unable to make robots that can make paintings?  For decades now we&#8217;ve been able to forsee this, and that is just one of the reasons that it is SOOOO significant that our society has become crueler and harsher over the last several decades.  Think about how perverse this really is.  Just as human labor is becoming steadily less necessary, the fascist ideology that ALL MUST WORK (except for the &#8216;elites&#8217;)   has  become screechingly transcendent.  No one of any political stripe even thinks to question this now fundamental principle.  All must work, and their human value is determined by their work (&#8217;elites&#8217; aside).</p>
<p>Again, how perverse is this?  The less there is work for all, the more we are told that we may live only if we work, and how well we live also depends on our work.  Where is this all leading?   That&#8217;s not hard to figure.  It&#8217;s leading to hell on earth for most people.  No jobs.  No sustenance or dignity without jobs, and very little with.   Surveillance everywhere.  Robotic kill machines everywhere.  Most people treated like animals.  Elites living in heavenly environments with robotics and slavelike humans taking care of every need.</p>
<p>We are headed for hell, and  it was a choice we either made or allowed to be made for us.  It didn&#8217;t have to be this way.  Why did so many of us choose to believe heartless and fascistic notions about what makes a human being worthy of even living, much less prospering?</p>
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		<title>Comment on [ Ways of Seeing ] by paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2011/09/ways-of-seeing/#comment-21460</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion of the Himba reminds me of that old story about the eskimos, that they have 22 names for snow (or anyway, way more than we have) and so they actually perceive snow very differently - and more subtly than we do.

I'm a little confused about how you are relating this to our (mis)leaders.  Here's an example of how I THINK you are making the connection:  let's take a US (mis)leader who routinely labels American bombs as "humanitarian", when he or she thinks about them, while labeling other's bombs as "terrorist".   Possibly, such a (mis)leader creates a kind of self-hypnosis, which makes carnage caused by US bombs nearly invisible to him or her, which in turn makes it much easier for him or her to unleash bombs and carnage.   Is that the kind of thing you had in mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion of the Himba reminds me of that old story about the eskimos, that they have 22 names for snow (or anyway, way more than we have) and so they actually perceive snow very differently - and more subtly than we do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused about how you are relating this to our (mis)leaders.  Here&#8217;s an example of how I THINK you are making the connection:  let&#8217;s take a US (mis)leader who routinely labels American bombs as &#8220;humanitarian&#8221;, when he or she thinks about them, while labeling other&#8217;s bombs as &#8220;terrorist&#8221;.   Possibly, such a (mis)leader creates a kind of self-hypnosis, which makes carnage caused by US bombs nearly invisible to him or her, which in turn makes it much easier for him or her to unleash bombs and carnage.   Is that the kind of thing you had in mind?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Putin Descends to the Bottom of Lake Baikal by Godfrey Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2009/08/putin-descends-to-the-bottom-of-lake-baikal/#comment-20525</link>
		<dc:creator>Godfrey Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice video on Lake Baikal. Very well narrated, but its a pity about the mistake in the volume of fresh water. Its 20% of the worlds fresh water not 1/20 th.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Multiplier Effect for Vertical Farming by Jacob</title>
		<link>http://blog.thomasfrank.org/2009/03/multiplier-effect-for-vertical-farming/#comment-20503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The electric costs are a problem, but can be considered to be a necessary evil when juxtaposing the costs of biofuel production within cities and the cost of "Energy expoloration," by big oil.  The property taxes are a different story.  The vacant building fabric in almost every city in the developed world is overwhelming.  The building boom before the crash didn't just happen in residential single family homes.  Cities are littered with indutrial and post-industrial fabric that could be utilized at low costs.  Why low costs?  Because any reasonable owner or municipality will allow business development in buildings or neighborhoods described above, because some income is better than no income at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The electric costs are a problem, but can be considered to be a necessary evil when juxtaposing the costs of biofuel production within cities and the cost of &#8220;Energy expoloration,&#8221; by big oil.  The property taxes are a different story.  The vacant building fabric in almost every city in the developed world is overwhelming.  The building boom before the crash didn&#8217;t just happen in residential single family homes.  Cities are littered with indutrial and post-industrial fabric that could be utilized at low costs.  Why low costs?  Because any reasonable owner or municipality will allow business development in buildings or neighborhoods described above, because some income is better than no income at all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Infographics: Center of the World by Testking SY0-201</title>
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		<dc:creator>Testking SY0-201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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